I've read all the reviews and literature - they sound great. I need 8 for my office at work, employer would never spring for these. Why so expensive? I get it that they're a quality item, but $150 for a 4-pack of light bulbs? Are there diamonds hidden in the tubes?
This is a good product. Biologically compatible.
dramatic shift using 6500K compared to regular t8 bulbs. literally from night to daylight!
I am a strong supporter of Waveform in general because their CENTRIC HOME Flicker-Free A19 10W LED Bulbs and their SUPERWARM 1700K Flicker-Free A19 10W LED Bulbs actually are flicker-free and healthy for me. I strongly encourage everyone to buy those bulbs and to support Waveform since they are making efforts to manufacture flicker-free lighting products. So it is with great disappointment that I have to report that Waveform has missed the mark with the CENTRIC DAYLIGHT Full Spectrum Flicker-Free T8 LED Tube Light. While their flicker is low, these T8 lights are not flicker-free, as evident in the attached photo, showing a flicker meter reading of 2.679%. While the flicker meter software reports a 120 Hz flicker frequency, there are also additional downward spikes in the light output occurring at a 60 Hz frequency, which is even more concerning than 120 Hz flicker from a health perspective. The T8 tubes were installed in a new fixture without a fluorescent ballast in accordance with the setup recommended by Waveform for flicker-free light output. We were testing these lights in an attempt to find truly-flicker free LED lights for commercial use. I experience serious health effects from any light flicker. These lights were immediately painful for me, with the pain intensifying over the course of the next 5-10 minutes, at which point we aborted the test for my safety. Find my review of the existing scientific research into the health effects of light flicker by searching for FlickerSense Health. I have also shared more details of this and other testing. While I cannot speak for all individuals sensitive to flicker, I can report that these lights are not safe for me and our data show that they are not flicker-free. Please, Waveform, create completely flicker-free versions of these lights and please do not use the “flicker-free” label for lights that flicker. Please provide graphs of light output vs. time along with calculated flicker statistics for your products.
UPDATE- Response to Waveform's reply:
I agree that these lights fall under the IEEE 1789 "No Observable Effect" (NOEL) recommendation. While the phrase "No Observable Effect" gives the impression that the recommendation was based on studying the health effects of LED flicker and determining what level of flicker is safe for sensitive individuals, this is not at all the case. Instead, NOEL was based on an estimate of the point at which about half of the individuals in small groups of 10-14 normal observers in 3 studies are consciously aware that they can see light flicker, rather than being consciously unaware that the light flickered [Bullough et al. (2012), Roberts & Wilkins (2012), and Perz et al. (2015)]. People in potentially sensitive groups, like those with migraine, dry eye, or concussion were not included in these studies. The IEEE 1789 NOEL recommendation makes the assumption that if less than half of normal control people can see the flicker, then the flicker won't harm human health. There isn't any scientific basis for this assumption. The IEEE report emphasizes the need for further research, but no mechanism was created to define the parameters of such research, to fund the research, or to provide a way to collect reports of adverse health effects of LED lights from the public. I encourage the lighting community to remember that there are not yet any recommendations for flicker that are based on actual health data for LED flicker. I encourage government agencies to create a mechanism for collecting such health data so that meaningful regulations to protect the public may be created. In the meantime, I beg the lighting industry to voluntarily produce safe, flicker-free lighting. Currently, the lighting industry is benefitting from the fact that devices with flickering LEDs are not regulated like medical devices, requiring safety testing before release to the public, even though flickering light is known to have medical effects for at least a subset of people.
Jennifer, thank you for providing your feedback and sharing your concerns about the flicker performance of this product.
We sincerely regret that this product is not suitable for you, and completely understand the concerns regarding flicker. We are hopeful that through additional engineering efforts, we are able to further improve our products' flicker performance. You should be hearing from a team member shortly with instructions on processing a return and refund for your order.
The flicker measurements you provided (2.7% flicker, 0.004 flicker index) are well within the IEEE Std 1789-2015 recommendations at 120 Hz for 'no adverse biological effects' as well as our own internal standards. We certainly acknowledge the shortcomings and limitations of such generalized standards and of course recognize that each person's response to environmental stimuli is unique and should be respected as such, but do want to provide this important contextual information for our other customers.
We would also like to note that the provided flicker graph (right, in green) has a very zoomed-in y-axis which may give an exaggerated impression of the actual magnitude of flicker modulation. With a 0-100% y-axis scale, we would likely see that the flicker % values you have measured would result in a straight and stable line.
We again appreciate your feedback and apologize that the products did not meet your expectations. Please feel free to reach out to us with any further questions or concerns!
Waveform Lighting Support Team
Simple setup. I bought the plug and play lights to go with. Garage looks and feels like a workshop.
The color rendition of the Centrix Daylight 4,000 Kelvin 4 ft.tube lights is very good . I’m currently using one Centrix 4,000K tube light and one Northlux 5,000 Kelvin tube light in the same overhead Waveform 4 ft shop light fixture in my painting studio with good results.
These full spectrum tube lights provide excellent lighting very close to natural outdoor light.
I ordered tube lights to replace my ceiling fluorescent lights in my office. They worked great and are a good color and intensity and they are flicker free. I will be ordering more.
I recently purchased these full spectrum bulbs, and must say, they are the highest quality I have purchased for my birdroom. I immediately noticed a difference in my birds daily activity, and the lighting in the room is amazing! I will definitely be purchasing more in the near future and highly recommend them! Ty
The fluorescent replacement bulbs are akin to natural light. The garage is now a happy place to work! Bought two 395nm uv floods for kicks. Wishing I'd gone with a 365 for the extreme dark experience, but very impressive coverage and solid design.